Wednesday, February 22, 2006

The chickens- they died**

This Teflon thing. I *just* bought two beautiful pots coated in the stuff. I heard about the Teflon warnings, posted about it before actually. But the ever consistent ostrich that I am, I told myself it couldn't be that bad. But then my mother stopped using them. Ordinarily, Ami ji scoffs at such news. "Ehvay pay marray nay" (they just say it). But she switched. Then I heard from a reliable source at the CDC that a study found chickens hanging out near people cooking on Teflon pans, died from exposure. No they weren't cooked in the pans. Just hanging out near the pans. Why? I don't know. That is beside the point. Chickens died people. Meet Aisha the ostrich who has had her head yanked cruelly by the tips of her cute feathers out of the sand and made to face the horror... the horror. What do I do with the Teflon pans? Do I donate them? "So I found out these pans cause cancer and thought I'd give them to those who can't afford anything else" But they're lovely. They cost good money. Throwing them in the trash just feels.. wrong? I'm so conflicted. Any advice? Maybe attach a sticky note with warning?

Diet Coke. At a restaurant? "can I have a diet coke" Between classes? "think I'll go grab a diet coke" before a sunday movie "can you grab the diet coke from the fridge?" *sigh* Yep the stuff they put in Diet coke and many other artificially sweetened drinks cause cancer. My two most favorite things in the world cause cancer. I love Diet Coke. Love it. Love it more than regular coke. It's a part of my life but it too causes cancer. Reliable sources confirmed it. Reliable sources spoil all the fun. This actually really bugs me. It's something I drink on a daily basis. What do I drink now? Water? Which brings me to my next point..

Bottled water is a sham. My old roomate's dad worked for the state in water regulation and told us a little secret many years ago that bottled water is not necessesarily cleaner than tap water. I never bothered with the bottled water thing. But then I read a Civil Action this past winter and basically the book is about a lawyer suing companies who knowingly polluted wells in a small Mass. town causing high rates of cancer in children. True story. So then I thought DARN, gotta drink bottled water. But new studies confirm what I knew many years ago. It's not as regulated and not that much better. I know some people drink bottled water exclusively.. I was planning to start, at least one news isn't so sad for me.

**Edited to add: Aforementioned reliable source read this post and called me to correct the study information. The chickens were mentioned as an example but it was birds of all types dying near the Teflon, not just the chickens. Thank you reliable source. And btw- takes everything in me to say "reliable source" as opposed to "a little bird told me" I have an awful sense of humor. *sigh**

On a serious note, I know people struggling with cancer. Bless them for their bravery and the bravery of their family members. Please take my gripes with a grain of salt. They are in jest. The pain of cancer, obviously far worse than scrubbing with SOS pads and drinking tap water. I hope that's obvious, but incase it wasn't, wanted to spell it out.

42 comments:

mystic-soul said...

You start talking like journalist now.."reliable sources". (Just kidding)

luckyfatima said...

geeze all of this food paranoia makes me never trust anything. if it is true about Teflon then i am screwed because I never learned to cook without it so I will burn the bottom of everything. what to do, what to do?

estarz said...

My god everything is bad for us these days! Its worse than I thought. Thats it...I am totally going organic! 8-)) Actually I have started eating Organic Eggs....taste great!

say what? said...

sell them on ebay!

Maleeha said...

ooh ebay is a good idea for the pans i think! i second it.

I LOVE diet pepsi. LOVE it, probably as much as you love diet coke. ppl have told me everything from "it causes cancer" to "it'll make holes in your brain" to "it'll rot your teeth." All of which might be true...but I still drink it :o/ What to do indeed.

My mom is Alhumdullilah a breast cancer survivor. We have no history of it in our family and she was completely healthy before it was discovered. We're still not sure where it came from, but AH she's in remission now. Maybe it was a combination of all these factors, and more? Who knows...:o/

Zack said...

Donate those Teflon pots to me. :-)

ayalguita said...

salaam! Teflon is only dangerous when it has scratches, so to avoid that only use woden spoons, etc to cook, if you don't use metals they will be perfect for use and no dangerous;)

Jane said...

Aisha,
No no no, not my teflon! Is that really true, ayalguita? Are they only dangerous if scratched? That gives me a little hope. As for the diet coke thing, well that makes me all the more certain that drinking soda is just bad.

ayalguita said...

Jane: they did a program here once explaining that teflon can be dangerous, but only if used badly, like with metal things, if you use it with woden materials is no problem at all as there will be no scractches and the teflon will be intact and so it won't give you no problems:)

Sohnii said...

Aisha, couldnt comment on the previous post... technical problems lol... but Loved what u wrote...

Hm.... my mum's cousin had breast cancer, MashAllah she's fine now... but there was no family history or any other evident reason... makes u wonder how much good can being "too" careful get you...

momyblogR said...

Gee, thanks for wrecking my day, and it's only 7:30a, lol! The pan thing is bad enough but to continue on with the bashing of the ONLY beverage on the planet, DIET COKE! It's not right....just NOT right, LOL!!!

I know it's bad for me and yet I still drink it, hm.

And the water thing? UGH! They did a study once in NYC and the tap water there came in 3rd out of as the best, lol. People just don't know what they are drinking..the just think they do. I agree, it's a HUGE shame.

Have a great day. I'm off to the school with a Diet Coke in hand, lol!

Aisha said...

Mystic- not every day I have "reliable sources" :) I'll use the term when I can, lol

lucky fatima, sos pans dear and hours of scrubbing :(

Ayulgita, I've heard that before. I've heard as long as the teflon isnt scratched its okay. I'm going to have to do some more research on it.

Estarz.. but there's no organic teflon pan or organic diet coke :( Are organic eggs better than regular ones?

Say What, I have so many things I should sell on ebay.. I feel no one would buy them because i'd be starting new and would have no reviews.

Maleeha, isn't it funny how there is a diff b/w diet pepsi/coke? I dont like diet pepsi and its funny b/c they are prob the same? So you continue to drink it? Yeah I think I'll stop but its hard!! :( btw- alhamdullilah that your mom made it. that must have been so difficult.

Zack, i just might! :)

Jane, i guess yo'ure right, its not like diet/regular soda is a the poster child for healthy eating so shouldnt be a shock that its not good for you..

Sohnii you make me remember that we can only control our destiny's so much. Cancer and other awful things can happen despite the best precautions. May Allah keep us safe and healthy. Health is the best thing one can ask for.

Mommyblogr, lol sorry :( didnt mean to ruin your day!! Are you going to continue to use the teflon pots and diet coke?

Surviving said...

I really prefer diet sodas. The regular ones are just too sweet.

Mia said...

It seems like everything in the world today is a cancerous threat doesn't it? I'm going to live dangerously i'm still going to use the teflon (avoiding scratches of course)and drink my occasional diet coke. I've never been a soda drinker anyway. As for the bottled water awwwwwwww man I drink several bottles a day when I'm out and about otherwise it's good ol' NYC tap water for me.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about all this cancer hype...PFOA is the suspected cancer causing agent. It is used in the production of Teflon, but isn't present in the final product. The people that sued over Teflon were exposed due to direct PFOA exposure from water contamination or factory work exposure. I found this:

http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,04820.cfm

"There isn’t any PFOA in the Teflon itself, or on Teflon-coated crockery. The chemical is used early in the production process but is destroyed before finishing.

According to researchers in both Denmark and China, consumers are not exposed to PFOA from the use of non-stick cookware. A U.S. study—funded by DuPont but peer reviewed and published in the prestigious journal Environment Science & Technology—detected no PFOA in any of the non-stick cookware samples tested."

Keep your pots and pans. The greatest gain by this teflon scare are lawyers!!

Ali-en

Aisha said...

Surviving, I agree

Mia... yeah I'm sure sicne you use all the above sparingly anyways it is no cause for concern.

Ali, okay good job making me feel better about TEflon. What about Diet soda? hop to it boy! I am sitting here eating lunch without my diet soda and I'm possibly close to weeping.

mayya said...

I don't know how reliable this is but its pretty popularly accepted that having green tea helps prevent cancer, apart from helping in digestion, even cutting down fat etc.

~ruthie said...

wow, and teflon is in so many household products. Stainmaster carpet, for one. and now they make toilet bowl cleaner with teflon.

Personally, I like my T-Fal cookwear. And I can't afford to go buy new pots and pans. And it's guaranteed that I'm going to die of something someday. :)

They used to say that deoderant caused and baby powder caused cancer, too. Sometimes, I wonder at the validity of some of these claims. Someone mentions the "C" word, and people freak out. Maybe it's just a big marketing scam by the stainless stell cookwear industry, and the sugar growers of the world to alter our existence as we know it.

BTW, they make diet coke with splenda now.

Champ - Love Hound said...

Well, Coke is part of my daily diet, but when you use things like this, you must use some natural stuff also that helps us prevent ourwelves from Cancer 'n' may other thngs.

ARE YOU ORIGINALLY FROM RAWALPINDI? "Avey pay marnay nay" LOL!

God bless you....

Tee said...

Laughing about the "little bird" aside and the thoughtful disclaimer. Kind of sad we have to pad ourselves on all sides with what we say. Never know what someone's sore spot is.

I am finishing the last of my Crystal Light. I have no idea what to buy this Friday to drink - especially with the bottled water news you've shared.

I'm feeling awful about feeding my family from Teflon coated pans. Where can you even buy any other kind? I'm not worried about where I can get rid of mine - my MIL will snatch them up. Hee hee hee...

Seriously though - the weird sense of guilt you feel passing on your pans to someone - like it would be your fault if they get cancer down the road? ... That is why I don't give candles as gifts. I'm worried someone's house will burn down - and indirectly it would be my fault for giving them the candles.

All the little things we do that affect others can be so debilitating. On the other hand - the little things we do can positively affect people's lives forever as well. Who knows if the smile you gave that stranger at Wal-Mart was the one nice gesture they received on the day they had nearly decided to commit suicide? You never know.

And I have no idea how I got so far off track... But that's what I like about your blog :)

Bongi-Amma said...

chickens died from hanging out near people cooking in teflon pans?!?! say whaaa?

Anonymous said...

from wikipedia...

"Many studies have since been done on saccharin, with some showing a correlation between saccharin consumption and increased cancer (especially bladder cancer) and others showing no such correlation. The notorious and influential studies of the kind published in 1977 have been criticized for the ridiculously high dosages of saccharin that were given to the test subject rats; dosages were commonly hundreds of times higher than "normal" ingestion expectations would be for a consumer. No study has ever shown health risks in humans at normal doses. Furthermore, the biological mechanism believed to be responsible for the rat cancers has been shown to be inapplicable to humans because of differences in urine composition between rats and humans. [2]

In 1991, after fourteen years, the FDA formally withdrew its 1977 proposal to ban the use of saccharin, and in 2000, the U.S. Congress repealed the law requiring saccharin products to carry health warning labels."

...drink up!

Ali

Anonymous said...

Well, Teflon and Diet Coke proved to be safe after all.

You were right-on about Bottled water. Bottled water is one of the biggest scams ever. Have you seen those Aquafina commercials? They are advertising WATER!! The American public has been duped by clever propoganda, tricked into buying costly water. Imagine the profit margin for Coca-cola and companies. A 20 oz bottle of water works out to about 6 dollar a gallon. Compare that to the cost of a gallon of gas that comes from across the ocean.

-Ali

opinionatedinjerzee said...

Love Diet Coke!! What doesnt cause cancer these days!! Drink on!

Raheel said...

Fizzy drinks are very bad for health anyways whether diet or sugared. Lolz @ Amzu's Comment.

mezba said...

Reliable sources = 'They' did a study. lol

I would like to believe a life time of eating food cooked in Teflon plans have built up an immunity to harmful effects. Not true? Dang!

It's funny when we were young (I sound so gone), we used to go out by ourselves after school for playing, as long as we were back before Maghrib. Peanut butter was oK, soft drinks were the rage and no one sued if their coffee was too hot. Now ofcourse, it's a bit different.

As for Diet Coke - it's very bad for your health. McDonalds salad has twice the calories as BigMac (if you take their dressing) and yes, their fries do contain wheat and eggs.

'They' did a study - and Toronto tap water was found cleaner than bottled water.

momyblogR said...

You know....that's a good question. I only have one Teflon one that I do use, the rest are Farbare (sp.) Ware and I use them a lot.

The Diet Coke thing, man. It's funny because Honey and I JUST talked about that last week. How is really not good for us and that we should probably drink more water. Maybe this is just the nudge I needed, lol!

Thanks!

Aisha said...

Mayya thanks for the tip, I have actually hear that myself. I heard that about our classic desi tea too? That would be nice since I drink it enough! :)

Ruthie I heard Splenda is even worse from a doctor who came to speak at my dad's work. lol, you're right we all gonna die of something... perspective is key here. I remember that about deoderants.. they took it back then I think

Boxin, no not from there though my chacha does live there :)

Tee, maybe you can read the comment right below yours. Its my brother's who is in med school and he was sharing some wisdom he learned about the sweetners. Maybe that might soothe your guilt? I dont know its all very confusing. I agree with you, drinking anything other than the artifically sweetened is pretty much bad for you *except water but how much water can you drink!?* **sigh** LOL at the not buying candles, my mom does that too! Wow, see we have so much in common, we overthink things I think :)

Bongi-Amma, isn't it truly frightening?

Ali, I never thought about water like that. Wow. More pricey than overseas gas. Yah I never dabbled in the bottled water and now i'm glad I saved my money. THANKS for the info on the diet coke. I am going to do a little more research to be on the safe side.

Amzu- welcome! lol, thanks for the advice. well taken.

Raheel, true.. soda is not good for you.. it rots your teeth, etc diet or not.

Mezba, lol yeah but I DO have reliable sources. c'mon I can't say that everyday with truth! :)

Mommyblogr, Farbare? I'm going to look that up and see what it is... if its good then I'll switch. Yes I guess this was the push you needed :) Funny how we're all so interconnected like that!

wayfarer said...

i couldn't see the article about teflon. What's the deal?

Aisha said...

You should have it now, I sent it to you in an email. I should have reposted it actually on my blog, ah when I find timeI'll do it :) Anyoen else interested in reading the article there are tons on the subject through a quick google news search on "teflon and cancer"

Champ - Love Hound said...

Well, Your Chacha lives there, Does your Mom also belong there? coz the word your Mom used 're from Pindi's Punjabi. *Smiles*

God bless you.....

rehtwo said...

Hrmmm...interesting. Someone beat me to the point about the carcinogen being PFOA and not Teflon itself. As for the aspartame argument -- I'm wondering exactly what dosages are considered dangerous, or whether it's any consumption at all! I wish I had time to read some of the research. I'd also like to see the numbers. Is this only statistically significant or percentages high enough to justify concern among the greater population? 1 in 4 (or so) of us will suffer from cancer during our lifetime -- don't know whether this has to do with our lifestyle (a la Teflon and aspartame) or not...

On another note, I like tap water better than bottled water anyway, as far as taste goes. I think I'm weird.

S A Shuja said...

Here is a link to an abstract for a review of scientific literature,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query. fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract &list_uids=15367404&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum
it says there is little (if any) connection b/t artifical sweeteners and cancer. I heard somewhere one would need to drink several gallons of diet coke to equal the amount fed to rats.

As for artificial H2O, in my opinion Nestle water is definately the best, it tastes the most natural!

Aisha said...

Boxin, no she is not from there :)

Rehtwo and Shuja bless you. This is all making me feel much better. Although I must admit I read your comments before I took break from class and went triumphantly to the vending machine for my diet coke and I..couldnt..do..it. I feel like its now ruined because of this knowlege. Kind of like though I know the wendy's finger incident was a fruad.. I still can't eat there now because of the mental image it conjures up... yeah. oh well. its not like i'm turned off from eating broccoli... diet coke isn't nutrition i'm now losing.

ONE in FOUR get cancer? *sigh* that is terribly high.... I've heard microwaves are also a big cause. Dont know how I could lose that though.

Chai Anyone? said...

ish....living is pretty toxic. how many ppl committing suicide now??

*holding cigarette in my hand*

opinionatedinjerzee said...

Aisha, how bout' doing that survey thing that you saw on my and Bongi Amma's site..

Aisha said...

lol, chai anyone, you crack me up:)

Amzu, I will I will :)

Champ - Love Hound said...

No new post.......

momyblogR said...

I don't know if you looked up the "farberware" stuff yet...but I found this link you could look at if you're interested.

I've had my set since I'm 18 and the still look brand new even after the beating they have taken, lol!


http://www.farberwarecookware.com/index.html

Aisha said...

Champ, aw, coming soon ;-)

Mommyblogr, thank you! I'm going to check it out now.

ASH said...

hehehe....Aisha has cancer on the brain. Definitely don't drink the diet coke....very bad for you in many different ways.

As for Teflon.......it has many useful and practical purposes. I guess somebody thought it would make a good non-stick surface for pots. Oops!

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